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Wiki Loves Africa

Hi, You tagged Category:Wiki Loves Africa 2020 Events for deletion, but this category is not empty. Could you please either, removed the pages inside, or removed the deletion template? See also Category:Other speedy deletions. Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Yann. I'm unable to do so as I don't have enough permission to edit the remaining pages. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 20:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Armagh

Regarding Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/04/Category:Armagh you say that the change has been applied. Perhaps I'm just being impatient but I don't see that. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I misunderstood the CfD. Applying the change now as I don't think it's controversial. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 11:17, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: Please double-check Category:Armagh. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 11:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

That's all correct now. Thank you. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Bridges over the River Liffey in Dublin

Regarding the IslandBridge category change, I think that it may have been an error on your part. It is indeed a bridge over the River Liffey in Dublin. Laurel Lodged (talk) 06:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged: Yep, it's in Category:Bridges over the Liffey in Dublin. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 11:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I see the problem now. There's an ambiguity about Category:Islandbridge. Is it an area, a bridge or both? I think that it would be safer to change the parentage from Category:Bridges over the Liffey in Dublin and let each pic decide instead. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

The source of truth should be the Wikidata item, which says that Islandbridge is an instance of bridge. If some pictures are not of the bridge, then they should be moved out of this category. I don't know anything about this topic so I appreciate you double-checking my changes. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 12:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

True. But the Wiki page says "Island Bridge and the surrounding area (often known as Islandbridge) are so named because of the island formed here by the creation of a mill race towards the right bank while the main current flows to the left. ". So perhaps an additional category is needed. But is it worth the effort? Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

It wouldn't be too hard to create Category:Islandbridge (Dublin area) and Category:Islandbridge (bridge). If you feel like it would be beneficial, then I can do it. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 17:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Cryptic-waveform (talk) 00:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Nicely done. Thank you. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown

Hi, I noticed you doing some categorical work in this space. In Wiki, the name uses the endash ( Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown). The Commons category names for the sub-categories uses a mixture of long and short dashes. I think that they should be unified to just one - probably the endash. What to you think? Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Laurel Lodged. Fully in agreement that the names should all be using the same syntax. I'm slightly in favor of the regular dash ("Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown") instead of the endash, for the simple reason that it's what everybody has readily available on their keyboards. It's the same with the curly apostrophe versus the single quote. But I could be convinced otherwise. If the endash is picked, {{Counties of Ireland}} will need to be modified as it only supports the simple dash for now. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 12:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Let's go with simple dash then. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll start moving categories around today. I'll leave redirects in place if other people use endashes. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 17:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done. You can check the result at Category: intitle:"Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown" -incategory:"Category redirects". Cryptic-waveform (talk) 17:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

You did a lot of heavy lifting there. Good work. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Royal Canal (Ireland)

Would you mind having a look at Category:Royal Canal by lock number please? The contents need to be standardised; either "Lock xx, (Royal Canal)" or "Royal Canal (xx lock)". My preference is for the latter. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

See also here. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Cryptic-waveform (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Once again, many thanks. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Conventions for County Dublin

Hi again, just a note on the conventions around County Dublin. If you look at the Wiki discussions around this topic, you'll see what I'm talking about. They are extensive. In a nutshell, County Dublin was abolished and was superseded by four entities (counties and cities): Fingal, South Dublin, Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown and the city of Dublin. However, many people in Ireland refuse to recognise the legal environment and still cling to the "traditional" county structure. For that reason, and to keep the peace, a convention has developed whereby all categories for a given county are simultaneously parented to the equivalent in County Dublin. Thus "Foo in County Dublin" acts as a container category and also as a store for those things in Dublin the preceded the foundation of the state. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the note. I'll stop removing "in County Dublin" categories, but I will not add more work to myself to create more of such categories. If somebody cares enough, they can easily find all categories needing additional categorization and create it. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 11:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Garda HQ

While the only entrance to Garda HQ is via the Phoenix Park,in hindsight, it is accurate to say that that does not make it an entrance of the Park per se. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 11:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I've changed my mind. According to OpenStreetMap, the boundary of the Park is such that the HQ is not part of the Park - see [here]. Right-click and select "Query features"; select "Enclosures" and select "Phoenix Park". So that means that the gate is, after all, an entrance. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm not convinced. It's the entrance of the Garda headquarters, not an entrance to the park. But if you want to add the categorization, go ahead. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 21:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Have you had a look at the orange line boundary in the map? Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I did. But the way I see it: Is the door of your house an entrance to your house, or an entrance to the outside world? In this case, the gate of the Garda HQ is the entrance gate of the Garda HQ, not the entrance gate of the Phoenix Park. But then again, we're splitting hair here. If you feel strongly about this, go ahead and add the category again. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 13:56, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Every gate is both an entrance and an exit. The same same gate may be viewed from the exterior or from the interior; the perspective does not change the nature of the gate. Regarding categories, if both perspectives were notable, each could have a category; however, in this instance, I do not think that "Category:Entrances to the Garda HQ" would be sufficiently populated or notable. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Category:Taken_with_DJI_radio-controlled_helicopters

Taken with DJI radio-controlled helicopters has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

Prototyperspective (talk) 15:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

What is Shar-e-fest?

It appears to be some Hamilton [1] but many of the images in the category are from Auckland. I haven't removed anything yet but they do not seem to belong in the category. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle: Thanks for the note. Without an example of an image to look at, it's difficult for me to understand the problem. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 13:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

[2] Traumnovelle (talk) 20:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I moved images not relevant to the category into Category:New Zealand for future categorization. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 12:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)