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Your license

I am only concerned about commercial use. I don’t want people to make profit of the images and not use a legal loophole to inference copyright. You can change the license a little bit. I was not sure how to proper license the images. --Belginusanl 17:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree can you please change my license accordingly. --Belginusanl 15:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Add Brazil Government tag

Hello Pfctdayelise,

I have made a template of the copyright status of all Brazilian official symbols. It's in {{PD-BrazilGov}}. Could you add it into Commons:Copyright tags?

Thank you!

Philipi 23:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

my25.gif

Thanks for your message re this image. It was an image created by me, and I have tagged it GFDL. Is this OK? Jonathan Webley 09:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Benedykt XVI u Lecha Kaczynskiego.jpg

As far as i know all images from page of our president are green (C) and this picture is from this webpage :)

[1]

If you need something more tell me what :)

--WarX 13:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:PD-BrazilGov

Unfortunately there is not a translation of the law, but I updated the template to look like Template:PD-LithuaniaGov. I translated the section of the Law that regulates the copyright of official symbols in Brazil and inserted into the template box. And we in pt.wikipedia assume that this law applies worldwide, as Brazil is signatary of all international conventions on copyright. Ok?

Philipi 00:32, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Forget the latter

I've found an english translation of the law here: [2]. Look in the Article 124.

Philipi 00:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --- Philipi 15:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:CorelDraw-Photopaint.jpg

Ok, I wasn't aware of that. Fair use doesn't exist in France, so you are right, i can't use this picture. What sort of image can i use to illustrate software ? Romain Thouvenin 08:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC) (Hope my english is not so bad)

Orgullobot edit summaries

Heh, that tends to happen from time to time. I'm not exactly sure why and while the times it puts an appropriate summary outnumber the times it doesn't, I don't think we should worry too much about it. I'm glad you're keeping an eye on the changes, though. Maybe the bot gets so many requests at a time and it gets its botpanties in a wad, idk ;-). --Orgullomoore 18:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:DoPracowania.jpg

我用commonshelper upload. 选择了“Use WikiSense to suggest categories"。可能它的自动分类有时候不准确吧--Shizhao 13:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome Committee

Could you please return to idea of Welcome Committee?

I think User:Orgullobot/Welcome log would like more advertising (and hands :-). However some imrovements to log itself is needed.

EugeneZelenko 16:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

wikt:WT:CT

from User talk:Connel MacKenzie

I am looking forward to seeing how it goes (especially in English ;)). I think it can be especially useful for a smaller project like wiktionary, and hopefully will just need a glance every few days rather than obsessive maintenance. User:Duesentrieb will be very open to suggestions and improvements. It would be cool if you could give us (or at least, me :)) a small report on how it's going after a couple of weeks. e.g. if other people in the community find it useful, if you find there's many things that seriously affect your project that you weren't aware of before, etc. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 07:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, now that it has been going for a little while...

This is so wonderful! I have no idea how we survived without it! So far, on the small project (English Wiktionary,) we've seen one image deleted about every other day. Or rather, one image tagged for deletiong. As I've notified users that their image is on the chopping block, they've simply taken care of it quietly. A far cry from sysops running to Commons, screaming, after-the-fact!

I at first started the process to have en:wikt:User:CommonsTicker flagged as a bot. However, the instructions I think should say never to do that. On small sites, seeing the edits once a day, or once every three hours is crucial. On large sites, it won't matter anyhow.

On behalf of En.Wiktionary, THANK YOU User:Duesentrieb for allowing us to pilot this! --Connel MacKenzie 18:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker

I post this message in pt.wiki. Greetings. --Prevert^(talk) 20:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. When you need contact with portuguese users or pt wp, i can help as link between Commons and pt.wiki . --Prevert^(talk) 11:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I am not portuguese native speaker, I am galician. Galicia and Portugal are bordering, Galician and portuguese are very close, both being Galician-Portuguese languages. When I go to Portugal I speak with potuguese people in Galician and they with me in Portuguese. Lmbuga writes in Portuguese better than me. Furthermore in gl.wiki there are many brasilian contributors. I bureaucrat in gl.wiki and know Commons policy. If you find that I can help in Commons with pt users I am happy to do it, if not I thank you your offer too. I apologize about my english. Best wishes. --Prevert^(talk) 12:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I would like to help in the Commons, but I never propose myself as admin candidate. In the future if another Commons user likes my work here and propose my nomination in requests for adminship, I will accept. But I never nominate myself. Grretings. --Prevert^(talk) 12:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope (and try) to make a good work in the Commons. --Prevert^(talk) 13:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

From dynamic to static?

Hi!
I'm just wondering, it seems as if commons is stopping with categorization of images / media (dynamic), and going into static pages showing the media. Is this so? I encountered it at Category:Middelburg, after having categorized two other municipalities of Zeeland in the Netherlands. If this is true, how can we ensure that these pages are kept up to date, and show all media available? If you'd happen to know why this is done, I'd like to know - I don't really understand what's happening now...
Regards Noorse 01:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC) :) (I'll keep track of your page :) )

Hi Noorse,

There is no official policy regarding a preference for using categories over galleries(AKA articles, same thing) to organise or display files. The official policy is just that you should use at least one, and it usually makes sense to fit into the existing structure. In fact a mixed system works quite well. These are some topics where a gallery makes much more sense than a category. Each domain or area tends to have its own system, not always written down. Maybe you would like to help write one (a category scheme) for the Netherlands? There are some already at Category:Commons category schemes (I would especially compare to the France one). If not, just write to the people who seem to be implementing the current system and ask them how they see the plan working. People tend to "adopt" certain category areas to "look after", which is good because otherwise categories can get quite a mess, but they should welcome new input and not treat them as "their" property alone, of course. Just 'cause it looks official doesn't mean it is, remember. :)

The Middelburg/Zeeland one looks like it might make sense, since at the moment there are not a large number of Middelburg images (or even Zeeland ones, for that matter). Using galleries also offers much greater control over display and organisation, you can see that in Middelburg, you can't get that kind of organisation in a small category.

Keeping galleries up to date is of course quite hard, especially as there is no technical option to "watch" a category (and be told when members enter or leave it). You might like to ask the people who are currently implementing this system how they plan to keep it up to date. Maybe they just check the category every few months. It doesn't seem like it would need a lot of maintenance to be honest.

Does this help? Let me know if you have any more questions or want some help writing a category scheme. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 03:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes and no... Since the introduction of the galleries I find it harder and harder to find anything here. When we'd normally have discovered duplicate images due to the categorization, we now upload new as we can't find the old ones. :( I just feel more and more like giving commons up. Today I found an erraneous comicstrip coa which had been cut from a .svg flag - which also was wrong. And there was no older image... What is happening? I tagged the erraneous coa for deletion, but left the flag in as it was the only one. Image talk:Flag of the Pitcairn Islands.svg, Image talk:Coat of Arms of the Pitcairn Islands.svg and Image talk:Pitcairn coa.png. Sorry to keep sighing about this, but it worries me. regards talk to noorse at no: :)12:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

P.S. there are often a lot more files available than it seems, due to bad categorization in the first place...

Thanks for stopping by :) - and checking around the Pitcairns. Concerning the cat's & willingness... I try, whenever I look for something, to categorize. It's just the sheer amount of the work, with cateories seemingly rather being deleted than utilized that throws me off :( How many files is needed for a category to be considered useful at commons? 10-20? Right :) I'll try finding you on Irc... :) Noorse 15:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Unclear licence

Hi, I have a problem with somes images uploaded by User:Lily15. She uses the {{PD-old}} tag for files that are clearly not so *and* that are three-dimensional (so {{PD-art}} cannot apply, as well). No source is indicated. Some could be her own creation but I have strong doubts about Image:Borghese gladiator.JPG and Image:Aristonothos krater.jpg for instance. I have asked her more details but she has not come back to Commons since more than a month. What is the correct way to handle this? Would it be correct to ask for the deletion of these files? Is there some kind of "unclear licence" tag? Jastrow 14:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I really hadn't thought about CheckUsage to track the user down:) Thanks for your advice. Jastrow 06:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome log

Howdy. I saw your message, but I've been rather bogged down recently. I'll get to it when I can.--Orgullomoore 21:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

How's that?--Orgullomoore 17:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Chinese reading request to confirm image licensing

Hello Elise,

FrancisTyers (talk · contribs) has asked for my advice regading an image of unclear licensing. He thinks {{PD-China}} would be a reasonable choice as the picture might be old enough, but he doesn't know any Chinese and cannot deduce the author (or licensing, for that matter). Unfortunately, I cannot really help him either, but I was wondering if you could scan thru the Chinese page linked on the image description page and share with us what you learned from it. Many thanks, undoubtedly on behalf of him as well! —UED77 02:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Problem users

Hi! Thanks for the advice. I can't remember seeing previously deleted images, otherwise I would likely have deleted them straight away. I guess that my level of patience for people who ignore the clear messages at special:upload varies with my mood, but I do try to remember to revisit all the images that I mark as nsd or nld after a week so that I can delete those that need to be and I avoid contributing to the backlog as much as possible. JeremyA 00:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Interproject coordination

When you get a chance, please take a look at the English Wikipedia's w:WP:AN#Wiktionary user and w:WP:LTA/Primetime as this same user does seem to be active here (under a myriad of sockpuppets, presumably.) --Connel MacKenzie 15:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

The one user I was certain exists here is Special:Contributions/Mack96. --Connel MacKenzie 21:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Translation

Hi Pfctdayelise, I have added the greek translations in User:Pfctdayelise/Translations. Let me know if there is any problem or other translations needed. Cheers. --Dada 16:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Gallery link in Welcome-Template

The gallery-link in the template only works in the english version, not in the other languages, because it puts a wrong username the field. I don't know if it is possible to repair. Greetings, Longbow4u 17:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to barge in, but it could possibly be fixed with an <includeonly> / <noinclude> trick. If the localized version is directly transcluded into the user's talk page, the text inside <includeonly> would be displayed, providing a direct link to the user's gallery. If, however, the user is viewing the localized version as a template, the text marked by <noinclude> would be displayed, providing a general link to the gallery tool. See {{Welcome/hu}} for an applied version of this. Also see how the first line changes depending on if it's viewed as a template, or actually transcluded. —UED77 19:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I could not read what there was exactly in the Hungarian template (lack of this skill). But perhaps someone could check the German template {{Welcome/de}} and include UED77 fix. Thanks, Longbow4u 20:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I was hoping the language would not be an impeding factor, so sorry if it was. However, here's a mockup in English, as if English were a localized template. Compare the differences between the transcluded and viewed version of the same template:

Welcome to the Commons, Pfctdayelise!

First steps tutorial Our first steps help file and our FAQ will help you a lot after registration. They explain how to customize the interface (for example the language), how to upload files and our basic licensing policy. You don't need technical skills in order to contribute here. Be bold contributing here and assume good faith for the intentions of others. This is a wiki - it is really easy. Getting help More information is available at the Community Portal. You may ask questions at the Help desk, Village Pump or on IRC channel #wikimedia-commons. You can also contact an administrator on their talk page. If you have a specific copyright question, ask at Commons talk:Licensing.		Goodies, tips and tricks Put Babel boxes on your user page so others know what languages you can speak All your uploads are stored in your personal Gallery Please sign your name on Talk pages by typing ~~~~ Use the CommonSense tool to find good categories for your files (then other people can find them too!) To link to an image page, write this: [[:Image:Foo.jpg]], it makes this: Image:Foo.jpg If you're copying files from another project, be sure to use the CommonsHelper Made a mistake? Did you want to rename or move a file? Simply upload the file again and mark the old one like this: {{bad name|Correct name}} For more information read the full Deletion guidelines
(P.S. Would you like to provide feedback on this message?)

—UED77 21:34, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

That is a good partial solution (did you implement it for the translations of template:welcome?) But in general we still have the problem for templates such as {{No source since}} and {{Idw}}. What we really need, you see, is automatic translation of templates!! pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Possibilities for WM projects

Well, todays Wikizine says that there's (will be) a new Fundraising committee. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution_Fundraising_committee

Probably Wikiprojects would be a good start point. If there's a groupt of people interested in Foo, we'll likely have good articles/images/definitions... about Foo.

Possibilities for WM projects

Well, todays Wikizine says that there's (will be) a new Fundraising committee. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution_Fundraising_committee

Probably Wikiprojects would be a good start point. If there's a groupt of people interested in Foo, we'll likely have good articles/images/definitions... about Foo. And if some aspect is not good at all, they'll be willing to finish it. Having their work published is a good motivation.

I don't think spoken wikipedia to be mature enough. We don't have spoken articles (they seems to me a bit random) although if you're going to sell a Foo pack, you may get all Foo articles recorded in a few days. When people is interested... It could help promoting spoken Wikipedia.

CDs (usually) have 80 minutes. Some articles have a duratiobn of 3 minutes, other of 20' :s

I think people'd tend to pay for <..> if it came to their home on a nice CD or if it were on a pretty box on their supermarket. Wikimedia chapters will be of help on this but we can't afford such kind of comertialization (hey! you never know if we could save money on that. People is very bizarre).

eBay could be a good start for selling:

• People is registered and used to spend money by Internet.
• They will be looking for good sales
• Transactions are send by post. No new systems.
• eBay allows multiple selling of a product at X price. It doesn't only have auctions.
• It's international, we'd only have products on different languages.
• Packs would be prepared at the nearest WMF chapter for sending.

Platonides 21:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Welcome/hu

Hey, I am a bit concerned to see bolded links to non-existent key pages such as Commons:FAQ/hu and Commons:Licensing/hu. The welcome message should actually be helpful... could you at least link the English pages in brackets after the redlinks, so that something is available? thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I understand. Would the this scheme do for a couple of days until the translations are finished? —UED77 01:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion request

Hi. I am not sure that scolding people for nominating image is a good idea.... IMO it is our responsibility to manage the deletion request with more admins.... LOL

Fred Chess 11:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Roaches

How is the feature that warns if one uploads an image that has previously been deleted? I removed Image:Alphonse Mucha Dancel lithographie.jpg from 14 projects on April 22, but it was soon uploaded again and is already used on articles on four projects. Like roaches, they are coming creeping back! Can't get rid of'em!

Fred Chess 15:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Gildemax

Could you please take a look to this user contributions? I think he/she could be good admin. However my sole nomination of another person to admin position failed, so I'm superstitious now for nominating other people :-) --EugeneZelenko 13:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Dodge vehicles

How can you tell? Is there some giveaway clue, or even something obvious? (I don't know anything about cars) --pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I looked at the logo in the front. It first looked like ...OGE, but that didn't sound like any marque I have heard of. Then I looked again and saw that it's not an O, but a D. And a truck with a name ending in ...DGE has to be a DODGE. If I'm wrong it's not the end of the world and it's easy to change. // Liftarn

WIKIBREAK :(

Pfctdayelise is taking a short wikibreak to get ready for exams and will be back on Wikimedia once the exams are over on 21st June.

please categorise your images...

Hi, you wrote: "put any images that say "orphan!" into a category or on a gallery page." I found right category but... how can I move these images? Could you so kind to help me? Thanks. Andrev_msl

Answered on Andrev_msl's talk page. Good luck with your exams! NielsF 11:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

All part of the service :-)! Seriously, the question was easy enough for me to be able to answer it ;-) and you were supposed to be on a wikibreak ;-) so I thought I'd try and help out Andrev. Cheers, NielsF 11:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

If you can't stay away from wikimedia, could you be bothered to help me out with something? Please request a category name change with Orgullobot, I'm not sure how I could to this. Its about Category:Comunidade Sul-Americana de Nações which should have an English name: Category:South American Community of Nations. I've already put that category into Category:American politics, it was an orphan before. Cheers, NielsF 12:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I asked you because it said that to propose a change to the bot you'd either had to be "whitelisted" or an admin, afaik I'm neither at the moment. The merge of the articles is done, Comunidade Sul-Americana de Nações and Comunidad Sudamericana de Naciones now redir to South American Community of Nations. Category:Comunidade Sul-Americana de Nações can be deleted. Cheers, NielsF 13:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

CoCat

Should work now - thanks for the report! (see [3]) -- Nichtich 16:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome log

Thanks. I Did not know the Welcome log. It is a good aid. I will use it daily. A warm greeting--Lmbuga ^{gl, pt, es: fala comigo} 18:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Catergorising images using CommonSense

I have tried using CommonSense several times to add categories to my uploads, but every time I get the following error message. Any idea what the problem is?

Searching for categories... . . A database error has occurred Query: SELECT page_id, page_namespace, page_title, page_len, rev_id, rev_timestamp, old_id as text_id, old_text as text, old_flags as text_flags FROM text JOIN revision ON rev_text_id = old_id JOIN page ON rev_id = page_latest WHERE page_title = 'De' AND page_namespace = 0 Function: fetchWikirecord Error: 1356 View 'enwiki_p.text' references invalid table(s) or column(s) or function(s) or definer/invoker of view lack rights to use them (sql)

Backtrace:

GlobalFunctions.php line 659 calls wfBacktrace() Database.php line 466 calls wfDebugDieBacktrace() Database.php line 412 calls Database::reportQueryError() WikiAccess.php line 815 calls Database::query() WikiAccess.php line 717 calls WikiAccess::fetchWikiRecord() WikiAccess.php line 832 calls WikiAccess::fetchPageRecord() CommonSense.php line 800 calls WikiAccess::loadInfoFromDB() CommonSense.php line 736 calls CommonSensePage::loadPageInfo() CommonSense.php line 405 calls CommonSensePage::getPageTitle() CommonSense.php line 312 calls CommonSensePage::findKeywordPages() CommonSense.php line 1084 calls CommonSensePage::findCategories() CommonSense.php line 1543 calls CommonSensePage::generateHtmlOutput()

No, it is still not working - I have just noticed that it says "Database Error: Unknown database 'enwiki_p' (sql)" at the top of the page as well — Dan1980 20:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Louis F Rodrigue Masson .jpg

You are right, I thought this image was free, but it is not (more details on my talk page, answering to your message). I just deleted the link to it in the french wikipedia. You can delete this image in commons. Thank you to be comprehensive. I will be carefull on the next time. Kertraon 21:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Orgullomoore/Welcome log

hello Pfct, I added the log link to my user's page to have it handy some days ago, it's a great tool and I was missing it, so don't worry, I'll help with that as well. Are overtime paid here or next door? ;) lol.
About Image:Afiche 1 version apaisada USO WEB.jpg I just asked at es:wiki cafe, I have no idea if that movie poster is real or a self creation. Regards. Anna 22:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Categories

Thanks. I've been looking for a tool of sorts, 'cept the website is down. I'll be sure to take a look later when it resurfaces. -- 202.164.206.254 (Longhair, opps, didn't realise I was washed into the Commons) ;) 02:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Improvement

Hello, I added 2 rules in the community portal page. I did it to improve, and did it without discussion because I don't want wait 15 days to be able to do it. Do you think it's a bit too harsh/hasty ? That not really democratic, but I did it to improve commons. Yug (talk) 19:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Commons:Media help

Hi pfctdayelise, I translated this from German to English, could you please check it and the 3 sub pages for mistakes? And could you drop a translation request to the other village pumps, as you did so efficiently for the first steps. I could do it, too, but you are so well known and respected, probably the results would be better. Thank you and greetings, :-) Longbow4u 19:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews

Are you 203.214.115.130 from Wikinews? FellowWikipedian 00:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Wallpapers

Hi Pfctdayelise,

the wallpaperpacks are great! Marvelous idea! One of my favorite wallpapers is:

• 

Maybe another candidate for the flowers-pack?

Regards --XN 20:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

5 minutes

• when you have minutes to spare 8)
• can you take a look at this pictures copyright tag vs its description Image:Typhoon Pearl in Shantou.jpg thanks Gnangarra 16:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Deletion Requests archived debates

Hiya, do you know of an easier way than: <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background-color: #F3F9FF; margin: 0 auto; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">This proposed deletion debate is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive.</div> to close a debate after an image has been deleted? It's prolly {{subst:templatesomething}} but I couldn't find the template... NielsF 22:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:Typhoon Pearl in Shantou.jpg

Hi, I noticed you commented on User talk:Earthengine about a similarly-named image which has since been deleted. Should this be deleted too? pfctdayelise (translate?) 06:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't remember what first images looks like. It's the case where file undeletion is very useful :-)

Also... would you be able to talk to this user, please? Somehow I doubt these images are "GFDL-self". Thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll try. However he is Bulgarian. I could only read this language. --EugeneZelenko 14:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:Misplaced welcome - Special:Contributions/Smacklake

I'm guessing the user had made an edit in a page that has since been deleted. Ya think?--Orgullomoore 09:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, if there weren't such a lag on the Toolserver we could see it. It should show up herein a few hours, as the lag is currently 1 day, 15 hours.--Orgullomoore 19:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:2006 Time 100

Hi Zanimum,

On these images you have written, Jimmy Wales took her to the event's red carpet, she donated the rights to the episode into the GFDL. Do you have some evidence of where that's been recorded? I can't find any statement like that on the Rocketboom site. In fact the About page says all Rocketboom content is licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA, which is a non-free license for the Commons. If that's true, these images will have to be deleted. So do you have a public URL, or an email you can forward to permissions@wikimedia.org ? Thanks, pfctdayelise (translate?) 09:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I've forwarded a message by Jimmy from the Communications Committee to verify this; although the list is officially confidential, there's no private information in the message that I can see the other members at odds against. This was the special condition that Jimmy place on his invitation for letting Cogdon come, we were originally planning on just having a still photographer at the event. -- Zanimum 12:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Censorship

Hi there.... Why are some of my contributions deleted before the end of the period?--Tomascastelazo 22:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Well, I have to reconstruct... but the I uploaded 4 mummies hand pix and only two remain... another that was above image:mura was removed....

Thanks --Tomascastelazo 13:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

• Pictures removed before deadline: victims of wealth.jpg, Ballenas.jpg and 2 mummies pix. Removed by Mglanznig

• • Thanks for your reply... You know, my only desire is to contribute, and I will continue doing so.... It is not really important that the pix were removed given that a procedure or rules were followed. On the other hand, and this is a personal observation, the criterias used to rate pictures are really amateurish. This forum has a great potential. I face critisism all the time... it is the daily bread, but criticism is valuable when it is informed and objective, beyond the "gut feeling" or "pretty picture" level. Annoying people with multiple nominations... well, not my intention... I am new at this... but I catch on quickly. --Tomascastelazo 14:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Image:BunauVarilla.jpg

Hello Pfc, I just marked the image for deletion and warned the user. It comes from a copyrighted website, Philippe Jean Bunau-Varilla died in 1940 so the term of copyright hasn't expired yet and there's no evidence either that the photo was taken prior to 1923, but you have a look, my Holmes deductions might be wrong :) Anna 00:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

of course

bien sûr, j'avais cru comprendre. mais il se trouve que je suis nivice, et en tant que tel, je m'écorche les yeux sur les pages html, syntaxes et aides de wiki..... ..

alors ,, je suis TRES lent !!

je comptais finir un peu plus tard, en fait il y a un administrateur qui a eu la gentillesse de me créer un brouillon pour que je prépare la page avant de la mettre en ligne. donc, je charge à nouveaux les images, et si tout se passe bien, je devrais pouvoir mettre ça en ligne dans quelques heures.

merci.

à plus tard.

in english, i just mean i'm late and not fast because of my very soon up comming to wikipédia éditorial crew. i'm writting a page in my draft and in few time, the page will be log in the wikki.... O.K ? so i upload again the picture and then try to finish my work. thank you very much for your attention and may be well write again soon....

Elge reint -- téléscripteur 20:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)~

Thanks

Thanks for taking care of the messages on my talk page; I was planning to stop in for a while tonight and kill of a few more categories, but I don't think I will now. The same kind of insensitive, self-absorbed whinging I'm sick of dealing with on en is now turning up here, so I think I'll just go do something else. I'm sure I can find somewhere else to spend my time. Thanks for all the great stuff you've done, and for being so much help to me. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 02:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

COM:FPC new nomination method

Hi there, thanks. Am I really one of the first, cheers. It was a little confusing in the beginning because it was new, but once you get the grip on it I think it's definetly an improvement to the old method which involved a lot of tedious copy-pasting and moving back and forth between pages... I hope I did everything right? There could be some mistakes when I nominated that image... but it's definetly better than the old method, cheers. Gryffindor 07:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Commons:Licensing questions -> Commons:Help desk

I've turned the former into a redirect to the latter. It is probably better to use the pages available rather than to create new pages to monitor. / Fred Chess 22:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

“山汉字”

上面一行为“ཪ绿色”（前面一字看不清），下面一行为“金川保ཪཪ”（后两字认不出），好象是保持水土一种措施，“金川”很可能是地名。--Fanghong 00:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

中文维基中有人帮我认出了，是“金川保健啤”酒，“酒”字被树挡住了，所以可能是广告。--Fanghong 01:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

DemonDeLuxe southpark

Yes, they're not exact. I was trying to mark it as png version available. I think i tried another template before that sent me to that... :s Platonides 10:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Anonymous work/pt

Hi Pfctdayelise, Template:Anonymous work/pt layout done. (Another mi:Wikipedia:CommonsTicker running :) ) Greetings. --Prevert^(talk) 17:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Ancient coins

HI Pfct,

On the Dutch wiki I encountered a fairly large collection of photographs of ancient coins nominated for deletion as they were not in use on some article. You can find the list nl:Wikipedia:Te_verwijderen_afbeeldingen#CharlesS here and in the two subsequent sections. They lacked copyright info, but as they are essentially photos of 2D objects we reasoned that they were PD-old.

As you are one of the people active in the judgment of copyright violations, I would welcome your opinion in this before I start uploading the whole bunch here on commons.

tia, TeunSpaans 06:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thx for the suggestion, I have posed the question on Commons talk:Licensing. TeunSpaans 19:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

all those cars, bikes, etc

Theres thousands of pictures here yet most are too small, even worse very few are worth using as wallpapers. So many are taken of cars parked in the street, theres a few at shows its saddening to think there are so few good photos, and even fewer Feature Picture qualtiy ones.

Seriously after trying to find just 12 good quality shots something needs to be done to increase the standard of pictures. How would I go about starting a Quality Image project similar to en.wikipedia's Good Article project. Gnangarra 16:45, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Dutch pronunciation (municipality names)

Hi, I haven't forgotten this one, long time ago as it may seem. My plan is to sort out category Dutch pronunciation and make a subcat for the names of localities, not only including municipality names, but also city, river, and other names, maybe if needed with other subcats. So Category:Dutch pronunciation of toponyms (if that's the correct word) with (if needed and maybe not right away) subcats as Category:Dutch pronunciation of river names, Category:Dutch pronunciation of municipality names etc. I was planning to do this with w:Wikipedia:AWB, is that possible or is use of that tool unwanted on Commons? Do I need a bot flag for this, or should I just make a maximum number of edits/minute? Cheers, NielsF 21:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, the AWB won't work. NielsF 21:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Quality images

• Commons:Quality Images
• Commons:Quality images candidates

Here are the two starting pages for what I was thinking in creating Quality images, what do you think. Gnangarra 15:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I think its starting to get there, how do the translation thingies at the top get added, Gnangarra 13:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Ceausescu elena04.jpg

this image comes from en-wiki and it was uploaded by en:User:Homeontherange so probably you should ask him. bye. --slawojar 小山 21:18, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please, can you revert this and this. These are insults. Thanks. --Prevert^(talk) 15:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I warned you, because perhaps it was necessary to block that IP. Greetings. --Prevert^(talk) 16:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok. --Prevert^(talk) 16:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

DingirXul

He is OK. He uploads photos of bands, that he contacted and they allowed publication, so do not touch him :) If you know how to inform other admins/users not to bother Dingir it would be nice :) --WarX 16:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Very complicated :) my small brain is not able to understood that :P Hmm I told him to prepare that, but e-mails are in polish, so for most of people are useless :)--WarX 17:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

PMS merge

Hi Lise! My main idea would be:

1. get the grounds ready for the "merger" by preapring all the translation needed.
2. convoj pms users to commons by changing the internal link
3. transfering what can be used from current pms archives.

Sounds nice and easy, doesn't it? :) Now, let's go to phase 2 (aka "the dream turns into a nightmare"). Where do I find a to-do list for starting the translations? BTW, babel template now knows about pms here, too :) --Bèrto 'd Sèra 17:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Category:36 Views of the Fuji

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I don't check my WikiCommons userpage often. How about changing it to "36 Views of Mount Fuji"? That's what Wikipedia calls it, and it's just as good as any other slight semantic variations. Thank you. LordAmeth 12:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Note on Village Pump

I did actually contact Arnomane on his talk page (User talk:Arnomane#Align on equals). I brought the issue up the Village Pump because I was looking for some immediate feedback by other users. I'm not going to push the issue though... as Makthorpe said, it's relatively minor, and I don't feel like wasting my time trying to convince another user as stubborn as I :). ~MDD4696 23:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

US Government images

Just so you know, User:Fred chessplayer voted keep and then closed the discussion calling it a "one person" (presumably me) consensus. here it was removed: [4]. --Jiang 07:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Argh...I see you already noticed...Can we at least keep all the discussion at one place, whether this be at Commons talk:Licensing or a subpage?

I emailed BradPatrick (see [5]) about the "next step" on how to move this thing along...I'll keep you updated on this.--Jiang 08:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem....

Already forgot about it.... --ALE! 12:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Kochanowski monument

The newbie who uploaded this (User:Now) is my younger brother. He had no idea how to solve the problem he made and asked me for my assistance. Greetings --Man 14:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Against policy

Thanks for the note! When I return on July 4, I'll try mightily to bring it down to zero — for a few moments, at least! :) Yes, I understand, it's not really that necessary to implement a by-date scheme for copyvios. Take care! —UED77 00:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

By the way, have you checked my reply in Category talk:Against policy? :) *ducks* —UED77 03:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Indian stamps

Recent Indian stamps are still under copyright I think - I looked at the issue a while back, I think I was probably originally misled by the whole web/print confusion of other Indian government images. Stan Shebs 03:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Foursymbols.jpg

Sorry to confuse. Just delete it. Such images are often "fair used" on the en.wikipedia. But anyway, Commons does not allow it, as it is a copy violation. --ALE! 09:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

"Fair use" was just a guess. But have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_IV here you have such a fair use image of the Led Zeppelin album. Greetings! --ALE! 09:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

WIKIBREAK

Pfctdayelise is taking a short wikibreak to get ready for exams play Australian Rules football! and will be back on Wikimedia once the exams are over once her team has beaten everyone else on 8th July.

photos

Hello and thanks for your message on my german userpage (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Philipp_Hertzog). I'll upload some better versions of the pics you mentioned. Greetings, Philipp Hertzog 19:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. Do you want to do something special with these photos? Philipp Hertzog 17:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

My sympathies

I just came across this comment of yours on copyright issues: I'm so damn sick of dealing with these stupid topics with zero guidance from the WMF lawyers. It's a ridiculous situation. and just had to express my sympathies. I feel exactly the same way. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to make those lawyers help out; be they Brad, who at least holds an official position, or Soufron or Villy or Michael or someone else, who are, as I understand, volunteers like us, too. The negligent conduct of the foundation concerning image copyright issues borders on irresponsibility and is utterly frustrating to me. Lupo 12:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Orphans

You still have some... --pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:00, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Mind if I take care of it after my 'vacation'? --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 12:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Adminship reloaded

Hi, Pfctdayelise (what a difficult nick!). Don't worry about the current situation or result of the voting. I'm just curious about Prevert's motivation, but nothing more. I'll keep working here on maintenance tasks: I've got used to do then and now I just have nothing to do about images at es:...

Thanks for your encouraging words! --Dodo 14:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Striking votes

Hold your horses ;-) Striking votes takes half an hour, and is preparation work for moving them. The latter takes a couple of hours [6] and I'll do that tonight when I have a bit more time at hand. Meanwhile people we see that they shouldn't cast unneccesary votes. Lycaon 07:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Problem uploads

Taking a Commons break for a few days - if you want some work: these uploads seem highly suspicious to me, given that the user has uploaded copyvios and they lack a source.--Eloquence 23:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Flickr

I'm not so sure as you are; I think that a conservative approach could be more appropiate in this case. Everyone is innocent as long as you prove the charge. Imho you cannot be sure about your charge. I'll try to get in contact with that guy to see what happens I was expeting such an approach from an admin . cheers, --mac 14:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[7] Let's see what happens. --mac 14:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't want to flame, just to be sure to follow our rules. I haven't ignored the rules, I just don't agree with your judgment, but untill I don't get the response from that guy I will rely on your expirience. I didn't mind to make dispute just for fun

Index images

Following your welcome log call, i have been doing User:Orgullobot/Welcome log/07/8 _{(delete it if it's blue)}

Some issues i encountered:

• User:Brtoken uploaded 13 images, with simply the text Índice (index) on it, rotated and with several backgrounds. Licenses are valid, but it seems to me quite irrelevant to have it. What should we do with them?

• Several people uploaded images saying, permission from X, with no evidence of being given that persmission. Do we have any appropiate template? I've been striking them and maeking as no (valid) license, and notifying them. At least a prepared message would've been helpful. {{Image source}} is not too appropiate.

Platonides 15:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Logo Democracia Social.jpg

It was not me who tagged the image for speedy deletion but User:Thuresson. I just added that comment warning that it could be really in the PD. Barcex 16:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Materazzi

Roger, i will more souspicious in future... :) Bye --Jacopo86 18:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

See my talk for answers. // FrankB 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Non-Orphans

Some new commons-culture clash. re: [[:John Stapp:{{{2}}}|{{{2}}}]] and this... the two photo's are just off the screen bottom as I open the page. Draw a diagonal through the redlink for Project MX981 and it passes through both. So is Orpan a reference to categorization or to use in an article? // FrankB 03:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

1. Left you a 'status message' b4 diner. Just returning, and consulting [8] this, it looks to be the start of your heavier contrib period. (Is the Commons listed like WikiP errrr... wiki_p is <g>??? Couldn't figure out whether the tool is even valid over here.
2. Didn't follow your answer on the above question. Suggest you start with a basic definition of 'Orphan' and build from that. Don't recollect seeing the term over there, and haven't a clue as to what place ANY article (on en.WikiP, "Main" space) plays over here. I thought the commons was media related, and text was left to and for the various [[:sister project:{{{2}}}|{{{2}}}]]s.
3. Keep in mind my comment about the culture over here... I'm a newbie here, for all intents and purposes.
4. Pardon on the ramblings with the numeric para's, but I was cramming three days work into one marathon stretch. Even I find it somewhat disjointed when revisiting my text.
5. The purpose of the numbering was to match your point or query with answers, then use the 'expanded' number sections to just say things like:
               re: 4.5.7 I think your point about sexy women is on point, but...
                  ...again a technical practice (including US Gov't and law in certain areas, I believe).
      4.5.0 equates to 4.5, the fifth subtopic of topic four.
      Intro's are of the form X.0 or just 'X.' Similarly, sub-intros have form X.0. (...) .0 — which is to say a difference in topic from the last. I do hope that wasn't too confusing, or stressful, it's pretty straight-forward. (I think I got the indents right, though it's hard to be sure without taking a hardcopy read. Also, I'd be ten times more productive on these wiki's if I had a WYSIWYG editor for doing the wikiWork!)
6. I'll start looking immediately for what your long post had other than that procedural point. I'll probably just start by revising to create sub-section headings at each X.0 paragraph, and we can section edit that way at the same time.

Think this is much ado about essentially saying: 'Hi Frank' to me... with some information exchange. BTW- I've already conceded on the template names, if you see my talk. T'would be nice to have a first name. Your Wiki-handle is pretty difficult. IMHO, it'd probably parse better if it had some random capitalizations. <g> Let's see... how to parse 'Pfctdayelise' mnemonically?

I get 'pfc'=='Private, First Class; 't' for Tom, 'Day' (that part is easy!) and an alternative (misspelt) 'else'=='Elise'. Or some such. Thus: PfcTDayElise makes far far more sense to me! <g> (assuming that's a good parsing. If 'dayelise' is a last name variant I've never seen... then it sucks, and I don't even want to entertain what 'pfct' might otherwise represent... 'Perfect' perhaps. (My, how humble you are!??) Hmmmm... your user page is 'light hearted' but gives few clues. Not even sex or age. No Bio at all, at all. Shucks. Well, assuming I parsed that wrong and 'Dayelise is a last name: 'Congradulations for having a more uncommon last name than mine!' (I'll stop playing now!) On to your long message! (Hope you don't mind being teased!) // FrankB 03:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay Brianna, that's a sweet name origination. I'm afraid mine is entirely prosaic! I'm essentially in Boston, USA, by the way, and I'd guessed that locus for you on language choice and the edit time distribution. Life would be soooo much better if they got that tool fixed—should be a function in system software, not a hokey script hack job! I wasn't trying to snoop. The contents of the click box for selecting whichy wiki your parsing are so long I somehow missed it—presumably because I was mostly focused on 'en' variants.

I'd submit it'd be kinder to the rest of us if you encoded a talk link into your signature! Say: Pfctdayelise
      (Some folks use a 'desk' or contribs links for the third one. I was just trying for red white blue to pull your leg a bit. White disappears over here. Now here's another system diff—it's 'stacking' the font commands here. I think it would have cleared to default over there.

My next door neighbor is from downunder as well... has the cutest baby girl they named Sydney, which is I believe where she is from. One day I hope to visit and walk-about. I'm answering your post on my talk (interleave style), but am also three or four edits away at the moment from getting back to same. Bear with me. (Just sent the reply email too!) ttfn // FrankB 05:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

cladogram deletion

Hi Pfctdayelise,
would you mind deleting Image:Banksiacladogram2.jpg and Image:Banksiacladogram1.jpg. User:Casliber uploaded and GFDL'd them on the grounds that the author had previously given him permission to make use of his work. However these images are from a paper published in the American Journal of Botany, and I should say it is almost certain that copyright is held by the journal rather than the original author. After discussing this with Cas (on the English 'pedia) we agreed that it would be prudent to delete them.
Snottygobble 06:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:WLE

Why, thank you, I did use my brain. I know exactly what PushForCommons does - I wrote the damn thing. And it's way more useful in finding good/bad uploads than the other pages that are linked from the template. I could turn off the upload buttons if they're annoying when working on commons images, if they are confusing you.In the meantime, I would appreciate it if you would restore my change to the template. --Magnus Manske 07:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and no hard feelings :-) I have altered PushForCommons so it won't display the "upload at commons/now commons" buttons when used with commons. --Magnus Manske 14:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Localizacion Ria de Cedeira.Galiza.png

Hellow Pfctdayelise. (I understand english, but I speak very bad) I thought that, when I upload a own image to Commons, I gave the rights of the image to Commons, for that reason I wrote "Source: Commons".

I will correct the Source. Thanks and a warm greeting--Lmbuga ^{gl, pt, es: contacta comigo} 12:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:Miss Universe Map.PNG

ok Ive expanded the description a little and changed the licence to the one you suggested. (i had loaded it as gfdl, but it looks like Joey80 as anon changed it to gfdl-self.) --Astrokey44 16:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Adjectival placenames

The MakBot attack bunny has gone over the top and and is challenging adjectival categories to single combat.

Among the other house keeping duties, I have redirected the old categories to the new ones. You expressed an interest in redirections. If the kind of conversions MakBot is not doing is not what you had in mind, let me know at your earliest convenience.

• see User:MakBot/AdvanceNotice2 for old vs new cats. Conversions are being done in alpha order, and the ones in blue in the right hand column the top of the list are complete and may be reviewed.

Thanks. -Mak 22:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Commons:Bots

What should I do to get a flag? Can you help me, I don't know where to put the request in that page. Thanks a lot..--Helios89 23:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

RL needs or Slacking off?

In appreciation for your patience.

Which ever... hope you're out on the town planning a grand night of the same. I've got your 'reading' almost completed if you come into wikiWork! I've sectionalized it, so just indent... but skim once before asking something already answered. Keep your eye on your email too. I've one sitting to go out on one concern from you, but am opening the venue up to some contacts to brainstorm on how to launch this as an official wikiProject ASAP. It's overdue. See ya soon! // FrankB 03:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:World trade center cgpix2001.jpg

Sorry... You can verify the license of this site for me?

• http://adiemus.org/lest_we_forget/dump/images/

João Felipe C.S 19:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Category:Against policy

115. Just sharing my frustration =P It keeps on growing for some reason! >< I started unlinking images I delete. It's taking some time, but your translations make it much simpler! What do you say we try and bring it down under 50 for once? —UED77 09:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, but already I discovered the license of the image… It is the GFDL...

Some COAs

In order to give someone else the chance to have a second judgement of the issue where I am not absolutly sure. The cc-by-nc license is by the Geneawiki. However, these COAs might be in the PD. --ALE! 15:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems ok. --ALE! 07:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

test

testing, 1, 2, 3... pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

I just thought I had to give the uploader an opportunity to explain himself... You have to take into account that those images are affected by a special clause of the current Spanish copyright laws. It's not totally clear if they are in the public domain or not. I think they are still copyrighted, but I'm not a lawyer. --Dodo 08:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Do briefs stink??

This page is protected and clutters up the Special:Uncategorizedpages. Can you delete it, otherwise categorize it in Category:Useless pages? Thanks. --Juiced lemon 09:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Why I didn't remove the names

Because I thought that coming back to it after a few days, Icould go back to those I had marked as not OK and check on their further/past contributions. And as it is, it is a few days after, and I'm gonna go back and see what has become of my not OK people! notafish }<';> 13:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I forgot. Thanx for the amazing work you're doing here on Commons. notafish }<';> 13:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Since we're both here

What do you make of this? I am tempted to transfer it to en: and tag it fair use. But look at its use on en and the caption of the image, it seems it is made by the guy who uploaded it (the button that is). So? notafish }<';> 14:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood me. I have no reason not to believe it's not his pic. What I am not sure about, is whether the subject of the image does not fall under fair use. Even if *he* made the button himself. The person on the button has a right to an image, and I don't know what political promotional material fall under. My take would be fair use. Hence exit Commons. I believe he is the one who took the pic. (I mean hey, that's a pretty obscure campaign isn't it?) I would have double tagged the image fair use (for the subject) and PD (for the photo) on en. notafish }<';> 15:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Or we could also ask him. And gain time. notafish }<';> 15:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Or....look at this and this and decide it's his button, and his photo... notafish }<';>

I am concerned about the fact that making a photo of something, even a button you made with your own hands for an obscure little political campaign, does not make you the copyright holder of that something (in this case, the image of the woman, the slogan, the design, what do I know). In the end, I would argue (if I were a purist), that the button is his (the make) the photo is his (the photo of the THING button) and that the photo/design of the campaign fall under copyright. But you are right, I think all of it is ok. Thanks for putting up with me and my renewed interest in commons, I had lost faith. notafish }<';> 16:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Help

Can you revert: A Guarda, Category:A Guarda and Image:Escudo A Coruña.jpg? I revert manually but an user insist in change categories and texts. These edits broken category scheme of these images, categories and pages of Commons. Thanks. --Prevert^(talk) 16:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Solve. --Prevert^(talk) 19:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Milosevic picture deleted?

I saw that you deleted the picture from the swedish wikipedia part of Slobodan Milosevic because it was against the copyright rules, but why when it stands "Slobodan Milosevic official portrait from http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/images/milosevic-1.jpg which is fair use and also it is not copyrighted" on the English part? --Narcissist 20:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Okey, i just saw that it stood "2 juni 2006 kl.14.14 203.214.115.130 (Diskussion) (Removing image, this image is a suspected copyright violation and will soon be deleted from the Commons:. (commons:User:pfctdayelise))" in the history-log.

I checked it up on Commons and i saw that it wasn't you who deleted it?

"11:29, 12 June 2006 Thuresson (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Smilo.jpg" (Fair use from :en:Image:Smilo.jpg) 21:11, 12 March 2006 Crux (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Smilo.jpg" (Fair Use)"

The english part have uploaded it on their own server, with another filename so probably they had the picture on Commons before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Smilo.jpg

--Narcissist 08:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was Smilo.jpg you deleted, anyway it stood that it was "fair use" but not copyrighted. Do you think it's ok that I upload it on the swedish server? Haven't learn all the copyright-rules yet. --Narcissist 09:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Image talk:NEUTEFFECT1.jpg

Please see my comments there. Be aware this user has had several of these images deleted previously as copyvio. - Amgine 03:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:TeAroha1881.jpg

I was wondering if you can help me with categorising this image to keep the Alexander Turnbull Library (New Zealand) happy. At present the image is tagged PD-old, but in an email the library has said the following to me:

While the image looks great we do have one concern. When you click on the image you are taken to a page where the following text appears in a grey box:

"This image (or other media file) is in the public domain because its copyright has expired. This applies to the United States, Canada, the European Union and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years."

While the image is indeed out of copyright, it is the Library's role to administer the use of the images as heritage objects. The cited text suggests that anyone can take the image and use it for whatever purpose. This undermines the Library's ability to protect the item from inappropriate use (incorrect citation, poor quality reproductions, etc). If it is possible can this box please be removed. The following text must be inserted in the caption underneath the image: "Permission of the Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand, must be obtained before any re-use of this image."

Is there a way to do this? Seems they want to have control even over old pix like this. I would like to do my best to keep them happy because they are a really great source of worthwhile NZ pix. Kahuroa 06:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply - will do as you suggest. here is the link to the image on the Turnbull site - tho their server seems to be having problems at the moment, this does work usually [9]. Kahuroa 12:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

user:Nepl

As far as I see, it's Czech or Slovak. Ask user:Zirland to fix it, couse he is Czech :)--WarX 08:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Strangely misfiled?

Hi! See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:TIME. Seems totally screwed up and disconnected from 'meaning'... {I was trying to run down why {{DATETIME}} is giving a newline when should get a colon here instead.) I've moved the talk on the template cum system. Need you to figure out what are good template names for you. Gotta run! emails in my pipeline. // FrankB 17:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Add to above, my sig's timestamp is 'mutilated' in (see top note in bold) user:fabartus/tmp1. Since we're on same, this needs a speedy-delete: Template:User:fabartus/tmp1

Ahhhhhh! OIC, 'DATETIME' and sig mutilation both occur in ';' prefixed sub-heading lines... The system software is creating a newline (linfeed) plus indent when used in the timestamps. (Note: Just tested on en.wp... has same problem there: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabartus/desk#Next) // FrankB 19:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

re: I can see how you're confused, but {{TIME}} is a speedy delete tag because on en.wp it's a fair use tag. See en:Template:TIME. This is to stop people blindly copying fair use images to Commons. Similarly template:fair use, template:promotional. pfctdayelise (translate?) 01:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Ooops I said nothing regarding Template:TIME... (Dang!... Misstatement in my original note should have said {{CURRENTTIME}} {{space|4} ...[also notice the rendered and displayed redlink as is system call!]) ... but was
    as I was talking about the seeming misbehaviour of template:DATETIME, which is used for timestamping things... In this case, archiving my talk page.

'It'expands to {{CURRENTTIME}}, {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} ... which, iirc, are hardwired calls to system software... and I believe the function calls which tack on said timestamping as part of one's signature, for example.

The matter is moot unless you want to report the ebedded colon misbehavior as a minor bug, as is cross wiki-behaviour, which was my reason for adding the OIC part to the prior note. So you could know to ignore this whole thread. Regards // FrankB 14:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Flags and other stuff

Re your message on commons-l from June 30, 2006: did you see en:Wikipedia:Copyright on emblems? It grew out of the discussions at en:Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_20#Template:FOTWpic... an official word on it would still be good, but I don't think we'll ever get that. I've also asked both Michael Snow and Soufron to review en:WP:PD, without success. Finally, as I wrote over at Commons:Village_pump#Anyone_going_to_Wikimania?, I think you should re-post that message at foundation-l, I think you're likely to get more input there than on the relatively quiet commons-l. Cheers, Lupo 09:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

"w:Wikipedia:Copyright on emblems seems to be pretty US-law-centric"... I know. I'm most familiar with the U.S. regulations, and it was the easiest to find useful sources for. I've tried to give a somewhat wider perspective by including links to international copyright treaties where applicable, and discussing a few cases from outside the U.S., but it could still be improved. It's basically a question of when a work passes the threshold of originality, and that varies between countries. So once again, we're back at the question of which laws to apply... Still, AFAIK, the U.S. rules are pretty common for once, except for the typography bit and the coloration. User:David Newton recently expressed the opinion that coloration alone was not sufficient to warrant a new copyright in Australia at Template:Deletion_requests#Image:Naval_Ensign_of_Australia.svg. As I said, a review by some professionals (preferrably including some from outside the U.S.) would be good to have... Lupo 11:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Re "snide remarks at commons": then don't mention commons exclusively. It's a common problem also at the English Wikipedia! Your questions are not that Commons-specific, after all. At en:, we also have the same problems (and the same problematic "PD" tags!) Lupo 11:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Image deletion warning

Image:Bride underneath veil.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion on its entry.

A.J. 09:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

What to do about

... image galleries which seem well categorized, but are not here.

That is see: Category:United States Navy images, and note the parent cat (redlink) brought in from en.wp when tagging it's sister-project cat (and all those many images (via the sister link) which need further sub-categorized, as far as I can see.) Since these are PD by law, seemed the right thing to do in creating this cat here... which already had an image. Should I do the same with that heirarchy suggested by said parent category (US Military Images or whatever), or do you all have something in place already? // FrankB 20:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

What links here

Unfortunately the "Village pump" page is protected otherwise I would have placed the following there.

The page Special:Whatlinkshere does not list usage in other wikis like http://de.wikipedia.org. As resources on Commons is used in all other wikipedia wikis showing such external links is a necessity.

Image:BibelTV-logo.jpg - Copyvio ?

Hello Pfctdayelise, could you please help me, I would like to get your opinion. In my opinion this image is {{Copyvio}}. Thanks for your help. --- gildemax 08:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I will ask at de: Commons:Forum --- gildemax 10:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Uncategorized images

Hello,

I am categorizing various items of Wikimedia commons. At the moment, I have some problem with User:Mac9 who uncategorize several images (and revert my changes) :

• Image:Milan Kernel.jpg
• Image:San Lureenz.jpg
• Image:Milan Domm.jpg

Please, can you explain to this user that images must be categorized ? --Juiced lemon 09:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this permitted? - cont'd...

Hi! I'm just following up on Commons:Village_pump#Is_this_permitted.3F because you posted a comment that appeared to indicate I should mark the image in question for deletion myself image:nfpony.jpg. I'm quite happy to do so, I think I've got the hang of what is acceptable or not, and I absolutely do not want to cry over red tape, but simply to learn! I am also still unclear as to the tool suggested to copy images from sister projects, when to use it, the why and the who.
Kind regards,
--Wilma Sweden 20:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Delete? no

Hi Pfctdayelise, :Image:Carton de Wiart.jpg has been given a 'SpeedyDelete' tag, but copyright permission is on the talk page & is referred to. Is there any way the tag can be got rid of? GrahamBould 05:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

User:.50%

Some obvious copyvios, blocked on en.wikt: after deleting user page and talk page. --Connel MacKenzie 15:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry: a software glitch made http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=.50...%25 look like .50%. The en.wikt: user was .50.% by the way. --Connel MacKenzie 22:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Check a dleted picture

Hi! Is it possible for a sysop like you to visualize a deleted picture? I have strong doubts about Image:Etruscan Figurine Vase.jpg and I'd like to check if it's the same picture as the late Image:Paris-Louvre-Etruscan artefact.jpg. Thanks for your help Jastrow 17:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

= Last days of Pompeii

Has appeared again on COM:DEL. It it really impossible to find out the OTRS-ticket number? NielsF 21:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Running for bureaucrat/checkuser?

It looks like Commons lacks bureaucrats (and checkusers) again. I think you could be a great one. --EugeneZelenko 03:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry...

I don't understand...

João Felipe C.S 03:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The English... Do you speak portuguese?

João Felipe C.S 19:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I need some help

Hi, please check this image KU_kJAH.jpg - stands for Khulna University-Khan Jahan Ali Hall. I am sorry I made a typing mistake making the second k lowercase. Can you please fix it for me by making it KU_KJAH.jpg or can you please tell me if I can do it myself? Thanks. Sayutee 17:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Template talk:Own work

I couldn't find any discussion where the template was agreed to be deprecated in [what links to Template:Own work. May be, this was a result of the discussion at Commons:Village pump archive-30#Tags for images missing info.

I agree with your comment in talk; now the image you mentioned in the template talk has been deleted for lack of licencing. How do we go about asking to "un-deprecate" this tag? -- Paddu 08:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

about ac/dc pic

look, i'm sorry about lying about copyright. as of now, i will not add any files to this site unless they were taken or scanned by me, for real. by the way, are scanned files even allowed on this site? --ACDCDude718 18:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

license question

i'm trying to upload a scanned book cover, and i'm having trouble. if it's your own book, what license should a scanned book cover be? --ACDCDude718 20:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

"Hash mark redirected categories"

Hello,

Regarding edits like this, please be aware that having any more than one line destroys the RDR. You can keep the RDR in tact by placing categories on the same line as the #REDIRECT. cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Works for me, jumping from the hash mark redirect page, or typing the category in the hash box. In what cases does it not work for you? -Mak 15:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it didn't use to work that way. It is very nice to know that someone is checking what I am doing. I am trying to be careful due to the breadth of some of the changes I am making. But I do make mistakes, and when I do sometimes they are quite silly. Regards, -Mak

Fred for Bureaucrat too

Eugene and I are trying to get Fred Chessplayer to allow a nomination for Bureaucrat. User_talk:Fred_chessplayer#Bureaucrat Actually sent that note to fred before Eugene put his name up for Bureaucrat.

I basically can't reach any bureaucrat now, and we need at least two active. Would you join Eugene and I in encouraging Fred to allow his nomination? -Mak 20:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Venice

Actually, the sentence was a small joke. Most folks living in southern Europe are familiar with those names- that is- if they get around at all. But most would probably say Venezia for Venice. Which is correct in Italian. But actually in Venetian (which is not a derivative of Italian, but a unique romance language like Catalan), the spelling is Venessia. With only two million speakers of Venetian nearly all of whom speak it as a secondary language, it is a pretty obscure fact. -Mak 16:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

cat redirect

Colour scheme really bites. I saw your remark and since you agree, I will change. Proposal simply nukes the pumpkin:

(proposal 1 that left the red border)

I really don't care if they are two other colours of your choosing. I presume you understand the concept of clashing colours. Whatever gearhead set them the way they did obviously doesn't. -Mak 20:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Funny. Right. It is not an emergency. I do prefer it obvious that there is something unusual and important about the text on the category page that the person really ought to glance at. I don't know about you but sometimes I am moving so fast I can easily overlook text as diminutive as the "original text" you pointed to. So can we keep with the general In Your Face kind of size? Here is the version without the red border.

am I getting closer? feel free to change as you wish. -Mak

Arbitration.

Hi! I would accept an arbitration comitee, but I have several questions about it (read in Commons:Village Pump, please). Perhaps you should ask it to Pmmollet, because he's also involved. In fact, he noticed me first about the changes he was disappointing, and so the trouble started. --Joanot Martorell ✉ 08:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello Pfct, I'm sorry but can't accept the arbitration. I'm not neutral enough in this issue, as Martorell and I have had some differences about it in the past, here and in es:wiki. We're both from the same country and this is a very controversial matter in Spain, so maybe someone who isn't involved neither belongs to the country could deal with this problem from the exclusive point of view of commons policies. Sorry, friend :-( Anna 22:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

About the arbitration: I've read up a bit after your question, haven't been that active lately. I sincerely would want to try, however there are two caveats: firstly I'm confused myself about commons policy with regard to category names, some examples Martorell named (e.g. Category:Sevilla instead of Category:Seville) seem right to me, but according to the English name = category name policy it would be wrong. Furthermore I'm slightly biased against Martorell's actions, blocking, if it just for two hours, is IMHO not a good way to go for an admin. So I'd like to try, but I don't think I'm the most qualified person for the job. NielsF 01:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm going on holidays for two weeks. I hope you find a third party until that, so. As a see-u-goodbye I leave here a photo of one of the places I'm going to visit. I hope also you and the wikicommonist like it. Cheers. --Joanot Martorell ✉ 13:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC) PD: Please, I would prefer a person who has good skills in Spanish, French and English, if it's possible.

I will

You know what-- considering what you wrote to me not so long ago, I will start to discuss my thoughts and my actions better with nice people such as you (if you don't mind) or Arnomane, Duesentrieb, etc. Kindly remind me if I forget my promise. / Fred Chess 21:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for the support and the congratulations. Jkelly 02:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Page-duplication at Commons:Village pump archive-30

This protected archive page has its entire text except for:

{{Village pump archives}}

duplicated. Can you fix this? I asked at COM:VP but got no response.

Thanks! -- Paddu 08:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, it is fixed now. -- Paddu 21:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration and the likes

Hmm I guess Martorell will have read my comment above as well, so I guess he'll be hesitant to accept me. Furthermore his wishes are a little steep (english, french ánd spanish, pfew). The only person (admin) I could find by browsing Template:List_of_administrators_by_language that would qualify 'd be notafish. Anyway back to your post: I'd be willing to hear their arguments and 'll try to forget behaviour, as both parties haven't behaved according to Wikiquette it should be possible for me to ignore that. nl.wp unfortunately has no arbcom or something like that, it has volunteer mediators though; en.wp's arbitration process has several steps, afaik, with the arbcom being the last step, before that mediation is recommended, but hey, I'm hardly ever on en.wp, 'cause I don't like the bureaucratism there, too many procedures, not enough common sense. Anyway, if the parties would accept me I'd be willing to hear their arguments, read up on policy where needed and try to reach a workable consensus. Cheers, NielsF 22:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I think NielsF is properly aware of linguitic questions. So, I agree with the choice of this user as arbitrator. When do you expect my arguments ? --Juiced lemon 12:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi! It's Martorell from a wifi hotspot. I'm still on holidays, but I advance that I've no problem to accept NielsF as a third party opinion. I prefer that arguments managed by Juiced lemon first to be pointed out, as the conflict was started by this user. I'm going right back in few days, so I will point my reasons soon. In the other hand, about blocking Juiced lemon, I've done it only for two hours because of ongoing editwar crussade. I think that I should to be responsible as admin volunteer in any situation I'm involved, so it means to assume risks. Cheers! --Joanot Martorell ✉ 14:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Imposter account?

At User talk:AdmKesher, User:AdmKesher is asserting that they are en:User:AdamKesher, but could not create User:AdamKesher because someone had already taken that account name. The AdamKesher account was used to make absurd claims of owning the copyright to two BBC images whose subject matter is the material that en:User:AdamKesher works on. I am tempted to block the AdamKesher account here upon receiving verification at en: that the account is an imposter. Can you think of a reason that I shouldn't do this? Jkelly 03:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. The issue has apparantly been settled; the account was created and forgotten about by the same user all along. Jkelly 03:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Help

Hello, could you give me a hand? Last night I advised User talk:Coyotewrw about a request of authorization and he's added the consent this way. Maybe I'm a bit distrustful but I think the heading of the mail showing there's been a real exchange of messages should have been attached along with the permission, at least that's the way we do it in es:wiki, as I haven't had the chance to handle any of the special commons emails templates I'm not quite sure. What do you think? Anna 22:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know you had access to OTRS, ignorant me :( Thank you very much for the work. Cheers. Anna 22:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

no lang template for color corrected

Thanks, but that template is just illustration now. When we are decided that we want such a certification template, and the text of the the certification stabilizes, we will commence creation of a real lang set of translations. At this time, anything that puts up a bunch of languages will give an idea of the layout so people are detered from sticking a lot of text in the description (since the languages will take up substantial space.) Okey dokey? -Mak 15:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion request

Hi! Could you please delete the second version of Image:Annibal.JPG (2304×3456, 3 088 835 octets, uploaded by myself)? I re-uploaded the same original picture by mistake, instead of the tweaked version I intended to. I hope I make myself clear, it's a bit complicated. Jastrow 17:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Alno's RfA

You're not a 'crat, however you're the most 'senior' person I know here. Could you please convince some bureaucrat to close Template:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Alno ASAP, cause I don't think it should last any longer because of inadmissability according to guidelines (more than 200 contribs). NielsF 02:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)( On second thought, is inadmissability a word?)

Inadmissability seems to be at least Ozzie English, as you didn't comment on that ;-). I tried before to get User:Andre Engels, fellow Dutchie and bureaucrat, to intervene when MakBot needed a botbit, but he wasn't very forthcoming. The problem with Commons seems to be that it's a second project (and yes I plead guilty, although I at least try to respond on talk messages as soon as possible) for almost all contributors (you and a few others barred). Anyway, I've asked Arnomane about the RfA and I hope he'll take a decision soon. NielsF 02:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah read his mailing list reply, however, I asked him on nl.wiki and he responded there, so he read my request, but didn't take it into consideration or couldn't be bothered; it was mixed in with some "local issues" so he might not have understood. NielsF 02:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi pfctdayelise, and thanks for your message.

I really understand your position, I think I may have the same behaviour if I had to vote for an adminship request on fr: for someone who seems to be really young in the project (low editcount and recent account creation - even if some high editcount is sometimes not relevant). However, I'm used to first read the FAQs when I want to contribute somewhere on the internet :) Here on Commons, I've been reading much more than I wrote!

Anyway, I will not be angry if I am not admin here, I'll just try to help of my best, and see later (in a few monthes at least) if I can help more by asking again for adminship :)

Thank you again for your kind message,

Best regards from France,

-- AlNo (talk) 09:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Four questions

So... I've posted four questions on my talk page. Do you think you could answer any of them?

• Moving stuff to the commons. Thanks! Great tool! --Evrik 03:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Request a Commentary
• A photo of mine
• Copyright question - Would you please go back and look at this one again? --Evrik 03:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Evrik 20:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Chasing a sockpuppeter on en.wikt

Hello,

Chasing a sockpuppeter/vandal on en.wikt:, I found he had another username here:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Tynt22

and for some reason, doubt that he created these images himself. I don't know how to track them down as copyvios, though.

--Connel MacKenzie 17:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you.

I've a new vandal today, using Image:Penis eregiert.jpg for (duh) vandalism only. --Connel MacKenzie 21:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your handy tips (as always!) You are the best! --Connel MacKenzie 07:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Image talk:Polynesia-triangle.png

Perhaps you remember dealing with the tag on this imgage before when I had asked some questions on the VP about it. You changed it to GFDL as it is a derivative of a GFDL image. The editor who last contributed to it insists on re-tagging it as Public Domain. I have tried explaining to him about derivatives, but he does not understand me. Can you weigh in here as I know you have previously examined the situation?--BirgitteSB 18:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I tried to do as you suggested with the old files. But I do not work much at Commons and rarely uplosd things at any project and I screwed it up. In any event the version I started with is at Image:Polynesia..png and the version as it was after my own contribution is at Image:Polynesia.JPG. Please feel free to delete these whenever there use for comparision is over the newer file is definately superior. My own version is particularly crude as I changed the German words to English with MS Paint :) Very crude, but the image was in high demand at the time. Anyways I am interested in how this will all work out as regards the line being drawn on derivatives and whether maps are creative works at all. I must say after seeing a spectacular exhibit on cartography at the Boston Public Library it is hard for me to believe the choices involved with mapmaking are not creative ones. I have simply seen too many different ways to show equivalent information for me to believe they are not creative decisions.--BirgitteSB 21:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Admin noticeboard?

Is there such a thing, where one reports copyvio uploaders, possible blockings, etc?

Or get attention of admins who speak a specific license.

Fred Chess 10:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Alexander Turnbull Library

I haven't heard from the Wikipedia Foundation board - so maybe if you could write to them as you suggested above. Cheers Kahuroa 12:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Can this picture be deleted?

Hi! I found a picture of me, cut from a larger picture, here on Commons. Since I don't consider myself "encyclopedic", and I haven't granted permission to publish a pucture of me, other than as one of the people standing in the background on a group photo, I would like to have it removed from Commons. Can you do this, please?

Regards, Quistnix 16:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Pfctdayelise :) I happened to see your question at Quistnix' talkpage - and as I told him of the pic... This is it :) Tnx! Noorse 21:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Mexico problem

Re: User talk:Zirland#You are a FUCKING IDIOT

Regardless of this personal attack... how could you ever think that speedy deleting 120 images, without even making a simple attempt to contact the user who was the uploader of nearly if not all of them, when they are still in use - how could you ever think that was a good idea? That heavily used/established templates should always go through COM:DEL would hardly need to be said, I would have thought, but apparently it does. We are not in the business of "deleting at all costs". This is not one of your better judgements. pfctdayelise (translate?) 05:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

According to Commons policy, copyvio images are considered as subject to speedy delete. From many discussions I got understand, that copyvio images can be deleted even without unlinking. Correct me if I am wrong. The images was marked as non commercial for approx. one week and later the tag was explicitely changed to "speedy". I checked the non commercial license on source web page http://ehecatl.2004.presidencia.gob.mx/tecnologia/ (well I cant read spanish, but CC logo was clear to me). I had no idea about the e-mail, that now mistically appeared. I see this topic on Village Pump... well I think it is hard to say anything more about this now. I do not intend to react to "FUCKING IDIOT", I just wanted to tell you my reasons. --Zirland 11:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the information of the complaint. I can only agree: the e-mail with full e-mail header, that now mistically appeared . Have a look at Commons:Village_pump#Complain_about_User:Gildemax_and_User:Zirland where I did write an answer. --gildemax 17:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

IRC

I never see you there, luv... Cary "Bastique" Bass ^parler _voir 13:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You're next! Cary "Bastique" Bass ^parler _voir 21:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

BradPatrick really exists

Hello. I exist. The tagging of the images in my gallery space is explained here.--BradPatrick 14:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Attack page again

I guess you'll have to delete that attack page again (and block the creator)... Lupo 12:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: signature links

Hi, sorry for the inconvenience.

I've initially designed my signature for projects where I do not contribute much.

Is that one more accurate?

-- AlNo (talk) 12:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

COM:DEL and stuff

OK, I understand what you mean now about template subpages, I'm not all that familiar with the technical aspects of MediaWiki; hope my newness doesn't seem too stupid :) I'm trying to get a feel for how things happen on Commons and my current impression is that a lot of policy stuff here is quite disorganized, where is the blocking policy for instance? COM:DEL is a prime example of Commons problems, glad you like my splitting suggestions there. It seems like COM:VP is another page that needs reform, IMO it would help if there was a page like en:WP:AIV on Commons.--Nilfanion 14:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks. To be honest I'd rather learn about the technical of stuff here than on en.wp anyway, as that place is a bit oppressive at times. I agree most users here have familiarity with the basics from their main wiki, I do have that understanding (as well as a hatred for copyvio). I think you are probably right about there not being enough blocks for copyvios. Perhaps, a short block on Commons would be more effective if combined with a block on their "home"? And yes, I know about everyone being overworked and underpaid...--Nilfanion 14:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not quite hiding from en.wp here :P I suppose here, as the community is smaller its generally nicer.

Yeah I agree now I've thought about the blocking stuff, they are a slap on the face not a punishment (unless its indef).

On the subject of problem users, I've been chasing up a user both here and on en.wiki for a lot of copyvios, could you check his uploads out? Theres a number of copyvios: some tagged as speedys (by me), some with long expired nsd's and some I have put up to COM:DEL. However he seems to have abandoned commons and is uploading on en so a block here would mean nothing anyway.--Nilfanion 16:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Question

Hiya, must be getting tired of the questions probably, but here's another one: [10]. This image has been nominated, voted upon and deleted by one and the same person, before the 7 days of a nomination on COM:DEL had passed. In nl.wikipedia this would've been not done, and it'd be normal to let the request stand and ask another admin to do it (via IRC or talk page, to at least have 2 sets of eyes). I'm still trying to grasp the nuances of Commons' unwritten rules, because there are many it seems, so I'm asking you. My gut feeling is that this isn't "proper behaviour" for an admin but if that's accepted behaviour here, ok. Cheers, NielsF 00:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

OK; thanks for the answer. Guess this is were some cultural wiki-differences come into play. Btw I didn't disagree with this particular deletion, but it was more an example for me of something I wasn't sure of how it's handled here. NielsF 14:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

This is wrong procedure. I've seen Erin do this before. I think she will get problems if she keeps it up. / Fred Chess 16:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

What? I don't much like stumbling upon these discussions about me going on behind my back. Look, I'm sorry if I have deleted an image before the full 7 days. If I did so, it was a mistake and you had only to point it out. I clearly acted in good faith, and we are talking about an image that the uploader wanted to have deleted, nobody wanted to keep, and had always been an orphan.

A totally separate issue is that of being both the nominator for deletion and the admin who carries out the deletion. I am very offended at the nasty implication that I am doing something dodgy or against policy. Show me a policy that says that a listing cannot be closed by the person that opened it, and I shall abide by that policy. However, I can hardly be expected to abide by policies that are only in your head.

I am not behaving badly. On the contrary, I am being a very good janitor by searching for images that need to be deleted, and seeing the process through from beginning to end. Haven't you seen the huge backlog at Commons:Deletion requests and Category:Candidates for speedy deletion? It is massive, and as many admins as possible are urgently needed in order to fight our way through the flood of files. If we had more hard-working admins, I could sit back and relax. But all too often, if I don't deal with something, it doesn't get dealt with. I am owed an apology here. — Erin (talk) 04:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I have edited the relevant page. If nobody reverts, then we can consider this policy from now on. But not retrospectively. — Erin (talk) 04:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The Weather Project

Hi Pfctdayelise,

I noticed your comment on User:Pfctdayelise/Other people's pictures about Ólafur Elíasson's The Weather Project at the Tate Modern. Perhaps you already know, but unfortunately those aren't people walking on the ceiling. It was actually a very large bank of mirrors that covered the ceiling of the turbine hall. In fact the yellow/orange 'sun' was just half a disk illuminated by a bank of sodium lamps, the top half of the sun's disk is really a reflection. Other aspects of the weather were simulated using mist generators around the sides of the hall, but they were easily overlooked.

One of the interesting things about The Weather Project installation was the emergent behaviour of viewers. After a while people started to enjoy lying on the concrete floor of the turbine hall, basking in the rays from the fake sun. However when lying on the floor, you were left looking at yourself and the strangers around you in the mirror 35m overhead. During crowded times, groups of people tended to arrange themselves in star patterns, or made synchronised movements, in order to be able to recognised themselves in the reflected throng.

By the way, you can find another image of the installation on the English wiki at en:Image:Tate.modern.weather.project.jpg and probably many more on the web. -- Solipsist 20:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that information, very interesting. I had no idea. :) However in that image, the reflection doesn't look right. There seem to be a lot more people on the 'ceiling' than on the ground. How come? BTW, did you get to see it in person? pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's a little confusing. You need to know the layout of the Tate Modern. The turbine hall is a large void in the middle of the old powerstation. Its 35m high (about seven or eight stories) and I guess about 120m long. Most of the floor is at a basement level, but the ground floor doors at the west end of the building lead on to a long ramp sloping down to the middle of the hall. The doors on the north side of the building arrive at a smaller mezzanine level in the middle of the room with railings look down to the main floor below and some steps leading down. The second picture is taken from near the west end door, so you can see the sloping floor leading underneath the mezzanine level. Whilst in the first picture, the view point is from the mezzanine floor with several people lined up along the railings, but the reflection from the ceiling mirrors is mostly of people on the lower floor level at the east end of the building.

An yes, I saw the Weather Project a couple of times - it was quite captivating. In fact I think I've seen all the main Unilever sponsored installations in the turbine hall, apart from the 2002 installation by Anish Kapoor [11].

By the way, the Tate has recently launched plans to double the size of their exhibition space by building a ten story Herzog & de Meuron extention on to the south side of the building, sometime in the next five years [12]. -- Solipsist 13:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

re: Images

I have already provided source information for those images. I have thus met all requirements. To make you happy, though (because you're assuming bad faith), I will provide additional information. I don't intend to do anymore.--Tynt22 06:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration again

Hiya, regarding your question: I've made a subpage User:NielsF/Arbitration, based on the mediation procedure on nl: which is a lot less complicated than the extremely bureaucratic one on en:. Any comments? NielsF 00:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

apart from the obvious during this arbitration thingy, which I had incorporated in an earlier version that was unfortunately lost during a FF crash... thank you for pointing that out, what do you think of the timeline and different phases in the arbitration? I wanted (and am planning to) ask other users for their opinion in COM:VP, so I can weigh multiple arguments, but am doubting whether it's going to be just useful or might render the attempt unfeasible because of everyone "spamming" their opinion on the arbitration. Also, do you think other people should be bound by this, at least until completely new arguments are brought forward, I'm thinking yes at the moment? Just trying to get it right here... NielsF 03:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Just poking around

Interesting 'tagging', why wouldn't these be tagged as "text" or "Logo" with Snow and Ice on, instead of being grouped with the nature sciences stuff, then sub-classed. The only one listed is the image given as an example!
    While I'm asking newbie questions, should there be any images in this at all? I'd think not.
   Is there a general tag to indicate (say apply when one finds something definitely miss tagged) something needs retagged by ICS? That is a category that is patrolled by the more expert editors and gang edited as a result to clean up the contents.
   One person can immediately know such and such belongs to so and so, etc. // FrankB 14:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Checking if cake is done.JPG

Image deletion warning

Image:Checking if cake is done.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion on its entry.

Julo 19:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

translation tr

Hi Pfctdayelise, i fix some gramatic things on User:Pfctdayelise/Translations for Turkish part. Cheers --Ugur Basak 12:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Socks ??

Hi, could you please look into the contributions of users: Sunshade1 and Digon3. I may smell sockpuppetry here. Thanks. Lycaon 08:09, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. As for now, I'll just monitor. There haven't been 'double votes' yet. Lycaon 07:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

We are brothers. As for voting we try not to do 'double votes' and be more careful to not vote on the same pictures from now on. --Sunshade1 12:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration (User:Martorell)

Hello,

I don't understand your answer about the arbitration. User:Martorell informed you that he is no more in holidays, and changed his talk page consequently.

So I expect this arbitration to begin soon. --Juiced lemon 11:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. I'm however very busy atm, so not editing much. In a couple of days I'll have more time, so arbitration can start... I'm going to notice Martorell and Juiced Lemon about the page and give them a couple of days to say if there's anything in there they strongly object to (although I cannot think of anything atm). I'll set the start at 30th of August, 18:00 UTC. Cheers, NielsF 17:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

re:Alexander Turnbull Library/Wikipedia Board/Two weeks later

‎<todo>...‎</todo> Just reminding you as you requested me to, about the ongoing ATL/old pics issue, that 2 weeks are up since you emailed the board. And also, I have another question, about the picture on en:Te Atairangikaahu. Is this a kosher licence in your opinion - if so I would quite like to use the pic (of Te Atairangikaahu (Māori Queen, recently deceased)) on the Māori language Wikipedia Kahuroa 06:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

I really think you should run. Dbenbenn and I are the only bureaucrats outside of Europe, and he's totally missing right now. Cary "Bastique" Bass ^parler _voir 03:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually not the country that's interesting but the Time Zone. Between 1:00AM and 6:00AM UTC I am pretty much the only bureaucrat that may be around, notably with dbenbenn not around. Also, I'm the only one with English as my native language. And, we have no Chinese speakers. Cary "Bastique" Bass ^parler _voir 14:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

OTRS check...

I ran across Image:Motorola International 3200.JPG. Can you check its OTRS # (Listed as 2006082310005641)? Thanx. 68.39.174.238 03:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC) ‎<todo>...‎</todo>

Thought you'd be interested

Check out Ti mi (talk · contribs)

You said "we need more images of female masturbation". / Fred Chess 13:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Fix?

Getting back to Commons:Help_desk#Mistake_in_a_picture: I have made the necessary correction as well as I could. See this: Image:Polea-simple-movil2.jpg.
(The original contributor CR has not been active for over two years and may not be available to do it.) I have selected the same licence as Image:Polea-simple-movil.jpg. Do you think this can replace the original? It is not perfect yet, I know...:(. --Johjak 11:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Rocketfuel

I blocked this user as an impersonator of you, it claimed it was your bot.[13] Having seen similar "bots" lately, I decided to shoot on sight, if its wrong unblock :) --Nilfanion 00:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

At least I got that one before it started vandalizing...--Nilfanion 12:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

A question for you, Pfctdayelise

Brianna, will you upload some photos of yourself in your bra/knickers, bikini and work uniform for use on Wikipedia?? Oh, and some photos of your underwear too, for the people of enwiki... --JoanneB 11:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thx :) Przykuta 12:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I always go with problems to the Bar :) But we have only 26 version of village pump. One bar for one language. Sorry, that I write about this problem at en village pump. I think that it is (search) problem for many users. Huh... Where is village pump for all? :) Przykuta 13:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Note this is an impersonator.[14]--Nilfanion 13:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Please undelete images

Hi, I was wondering If you could undelete the images of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Archive/2006/06#Image:21july-london-bombings-suspect1.jpg so I could use them at wikinews as publicity (may be to old to do that). Thanks. Bawolff 01:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for undeleting, I have transfered them all. Bawolff 22:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Image:Wikinews-logo.png needs a superceeded by svg tag on it - see talk page. Bawolff 22:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Bass Reeve image

Thanks for answering my question on the help desk. -- SiobhanHansa 01:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Images

Hi. I'm a AMORC's member, and I know how makes the simbol uploaded in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Amorc.gif... was Harvey Spencer Lewis, in 1909.

My picture, in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sergio_icone.jpeg has maked by myself with an brazilian site engine.

Atlas:

What do you think about that as a new namespace (it would be something like portal on Wikipedia) or as a new Wikimedia project? I have tried to write something about this here. Commonswiki is only a repository now, and as a repository is good for users who want to use files to other Wikimedia projects. So, we have thousands galleries. I don't believe that communities of Commons :) want to change existing format/standard, but for people who want to review our images, an album or an atlas is better form, I think. See also my proposition on meta User:Przykuta/evolution of Projects. Przykuta 06:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know which name will be better: New York - album, Cars - album or Album of USA, Atlas of history ? Do you have any suggestions? Przykuta 11:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:User talk:Pegado

I'm speaking with User talk:Pegado. A warm greeting. --Lmbuga ^{gl, pt, es: contacta comigo} 13:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Image San Lureenz.jpg

Hi, sorry for making so many mistakes. I have updated license. Hoing that's fine. Sorry for delay: I was away from commons. Best regards, --Clamengh 17:14, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I am updating all other images I uploaded. Inexperience or splitting headache? I am astonished by what I have done... Sorry again. Best regards--Clamengh 17:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)