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From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Subject: Re: Does Automation Take Jobs Away?
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 07:13:10 GMT
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In article <31p7gn$iu@tribune.usask.ca>, Henry Choy <choy@cs.usask.ca> wrote:
>Richard Steven Walz (rstevew@armory.com) wrote:
>: In article <318rgl$lbk@tribune.usask.ca>, Henry Choy <choy@cs.usask.ca> wrote:
>: >Richard Steven Walz (rstevew@armory.com) wrote:
>: >: I am NOT against automation, Henry, in fact I'm counting on it to
>: >: disenfranchise the rich!!! With sufficient time on their hands the
>: >: questions will be asked finally, why does that guy get all the production
>: >: rights to those robots? We know more about them than he does! We will
>: >: therefore equalize all wages by law!!
>: >
>: >Yeah and that guy will hire only those who won't say such things to
>: >build his/her robots. That guy has the power, the ownership. It's not
>: >fair to act like Robin Hood to take away from the rich and distribute
>: >evenly. That could lead to condoning theft.
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>: I SAID "With sufficient time on their hands ", Henry. These will be the
>: displaced workers who will not find more work, but will have the time to
>: think better than any previous generation of nouveau miserables why exactly
>: they let some people imagine that they "own" things they haven't ever even
>: seen!!!
>
>Seeing is a privilege, not a necessity. Would you dispossess the
>blind?
>
>What's the point of seeing? What's the point of getting your hands on
>everything you own? Do you sift through the dirt in your back yard
>lest you lose the right of ownership?
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If you don't, what's the matter with someone else doing it!? Nawh, you're
just fishing for a lousy metaphor for the greed you support. Fuck off!
Use is the essence of property, and you know it!!! You would try to obscure
it with mock profundity! We know enough what use IS, without trying to
satisfy your subatomic criterion! Bogus creep!
-RSW

[deleted for inanity]

>Is morality dictated by people? Or does morality dictate to people?
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Linguistic toying with deficient language. No points for originality or
perception. Both are true and non-interfering. Is your shirt blue, are you
"blue"?
-RSW

>There are certain laws that individuals may only own so much land.
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Where the fuck do YOU live!!!??
-RSW

>If wealth is not allowed to exist, does that mean no resources may be
>under the control of any individual?
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Resources and wealth are as different as water and labor.
-RSW

>For each and every person jailed?
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How would YOU know???
-RSW

>Some people are still troublemakers. What will you do with them?
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Some are mentally incapable of being civilized. It's hard to say which
ones. As to 'trouble', much of that is JUSTIFIED response to environment.
Change the environment and no more 'trouble'!
-RSW

>: It's a pay me now or pay me
>: later condition, Henry! All social services have ALWAYS been an effort at
>: self-defense on the part of the tax-payer. They knew that if they didn't
>: pay the cost of treating people right, whether they could find a free
>: market justification for such largess or not, that they would be making
>: themselves more safe in the streets and their beds!!!
>
>Can you guarantee that well paid people will not steal more? A great
>deal of well paid people steal today. According to you, the rich want
>to get richer. Doesn't that mean the poor doesn't want to take as much?
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Criminologists have noted statistically for over seven decades that poverty
is the leading cause of theft. They have no problem understanding that.
People who have "enough" and are not abused seldom find reason to take more
than they can really use. Most people don't seek to be rich. Both the
abused person who steals psychopathologically and the rich who use
pseudo-legalisms to deprive others are equally sick emotionally.
-RSW

>        Henry Choy                       "Math class is hard" - Barbie
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-RSW

