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From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Subject: Re: Does Automation Take Jobs Away?
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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 00:29:24 GMT
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In article <318rgl$lbk@tribune.usask.ca>, Henry Choy <choy@cs.usask.ca> wrote:
>Richard Steven Walz (rstevew@armory.com) wrote:
>: I am NOT against automation, Henry, in fact I'm counting on it to
>: disenfranchise the rich!!! With sufficient time on their hands the
>: questions will be asked finally, why does that guy get all the production
>: rights to those robots? We know more about them than he does! We will
>: therefore equalize all wages by law!!
>
>Yeah and that guy will hire only those who won't say such things to
>build his/her robots. That guy has the power, the ownership. It's not
>fair to act like Robin Hood to take away from the rich and distribute
>evenly. That could lead to condoning theft.
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I SAID "With sufficient time on their hands ", Henry. These will be the
displaced workers who will not find more work, but will have the time to
think better than any previous generation of nouveau miserables why exactly
they let some people imagine that they "own" things they haven't ever even
seen!!! I predict these people will decide to change from putting up with a
REAL thief who had gone unrecognized all these years and take it away from
him and distribute it properly! Remember, the people decide what a "right"
is! I predict that they will decide that there are some rights of excessive
possession that are NOT supported by natural human standards of "personal
property"!
-S

>: If the military join the rich for the
>: perq's then we will have to shoot them. Revolution is what the machines
>: will bring, Henry, revolution!!!
>
>Ridiculous. Machines give people enough satisfaction that they don't
>need to take away from the rich. People who really understand machines
>can put their money where their mouth is and build their own wealth.
>Else they can't claim mastery of knowledge.
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If you give people who have been more educated than any previous generation
the free time to think about why wealth exists, they very soon will no
longer ALLOW it to exist!!!
-S

>: >These events are merely history repeating itself.
>: >
>: >: They build more and more prisons.
>: >
>: >...in a world of increasing population.
>: >
>: >: They build fewer and fewer schools.
>: >
>: >...in a world of increasing population.
>: >
>: >: They have a larger and larger non-working population!!! You figure it out!
>: -----------------------------------------------
>: You are playing the ass to my cart, Henry. These assertions above are all
>: about the fractions of the population of any size still being larger than
>: ever before! A greater percentage of people in prison than ever before.
>: Fewer people knowing how to read to their children than ever before or in
>: any so-called civilized nation!!
>
>Prison capacities are reached faster than school capacities, and
>school expenses per school rise faster than prison expenses per
>prison. The numbers to look at: how much is spent on crime and how
>much is spent on education? What changes occur to this spending? How
>do they compare?
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The expenses to incarcerate already exceed a Harvard education anyway,
Henry! The RATE of their change is not so important. The important thing is
whether we are doing ourselves any good spending our money building more
prisons for those we refused to pay to educate. It's a pay me now or pay me
later condition, Henry! All social services have ALWAYS been an effort at
self-defense on the part of the tax-payer. They knew that if they didn't
pay the cost of treating people right, whether they could find a free
market justification for such largess or not, that they would be making
themselves more safe in the streets and their beds!!! Socialism is
ultimately only enlightened pragmatism, Henry, and your capitalist market
model only a mental masturbator's construct that freshman believe in
because they are not either rich or poor or well or sick just yet!!! It's a
children's disease related to libertarianism and its idiocy.
-S
 
>        Henry Choy                       "Math class is hard" - Barbie
>e-mail: choy@cs.usask.ca                  I AGREE!
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-Steve Walz   rstevew@armory.com

