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From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Subject: Re: Does Automation Take Jobs Away?
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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:03:02 GMT
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In article <30uo26$53n@tribune.usask.ca>, Henry Choy <choy@cs.usask.ca> wrote:
>Richard Steven Walz (rstevew@armory.com) wrote:
>: Just go downtown and watch the homeless instead, and then ask your parents
>: if it was like that in their day!!! While you're at it pick up an almanac
>: and look at the income curves for the last 80 years in this society!! The
>: minority who own your house, statistically, are doing better than they ever
>: have!!!
>
>It seems that this society gives people the chance to reach their potential.
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It you have reached yours, you will assert you did it all by yourself. But
if you were tortured racially and economically at every turn, you'd know
that some don't get that treatment!!! Unread boor!
-Steve

>: You, statistically, are NOT!!!
>: Stalinism always corrupts and has no
>: resemblance to socialism anymore than this system resembles a free-market
>: capitalism. Neither varieties work. The one which has never been allowed to
>: even TRY just might!! Socialism is often called the untried alternative.
>: The Native Americans didn't think so. The Hopi and Pueblo peoples had the
>: longest running and most successful communisms on earth, next to every
>: other tribal people, and next to your ancestors of 3000 years ago!
>
>Would you mind saying what you want to prove? I don't know what the
>Hopi and the Pueblo's came to, though I'm pretty sure they aren't
>going too far any more. I wonder why their wonderful system hasn't
>survived. Surely if it's so good, I would know about it through the
>grapevine.
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Because of a three hundrede year drought the size of the sahara, that's
what! Ever heard of the Anasazi? Similar story. The people had to die or
leave quick, and they didn't know where to go. Their system persisted in
miniature till the whites stole their children and killed them for dancing
nude in front of white missionaries wives!! I have the report of the man
who ordered the cavalry down onto them!!!
-Steve 

>: ALL
>: earlier culture's were socialisms.
>
>If socialism is so good, why isn't it around? It appears to be
>defenseless. People who live as socialists seem to lose sight of the
>future and do not adjust their society to maintain their ideals. Or
>have they rejected them upon evaluation?
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Is socialism around? Anyone wish to answer that? Europeans maybe, Canadians
maybe? Americans maybe? Hell yes it's around! We lucked out on this
continent, but it's about full now. We will be socializing in much the same
way that Europe has, and we are the last hold-outs, and not by much at
that. Anybody think communism is dead in Russia? Go look! Capilatism is
marginal at best. The government talks market but has to feed people with
socialism. Stalinism and repression is all that died.
-Steve

>: Capitalism is a recently discovered con
>: game which is attractive to the people that its social force alienates and
>: makes lonely and afraid of others.
>
>Each modern individual behaves like a large portion of an earlier
>socialist society. Division of labor is required only for difficult
>jobs. Capitalism gives people the chance to privately decide their own
>way. Socialist mobs are too slow.
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And if a guy with the wealth of Perot decides to make buggy whips again,
well, he won't have the wealth long, but that does NOT mean that people
won't starve because of his stupid decision for them, his workers and
spin-off employees. Who's the "mob" now?

Organized economies are always better. Medicare has a 3% overhead. private
insurance pays 27% for profit and overhead!!! And they say government can't
do anything as right as private market can! I wonder how much they have to
pay people to keep saying what is not true!!! The post office got the raw
end of the deal against UPS and FEDEX and such. Nobody else can deliver
letters for $.29 anywhere in the USA! 
-Steve

>: More people are sitting alone in their
>: rooms than ever before.
>
>Well that's because there are more people than ever before!!
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You avoided the equation by solving for the constant! Re-read or walk away
stupid.
-Steve

>: You are possibly doing it now!!! Wake The Fuck UP!!
>At least I have my own room....
>--
>        Henry Choy                       "Math class is hard" - Barbie
>e-mail: choy@cs.usask.ca                  I AGREE!
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Good luck in your room, Henry.
-Steve Walz   rstevew@armory.com

