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From: jr@petz.han.de (Joerg Rade)
Subject: Re: archives?
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 18:38:49 GMT
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Joe P Kinsella (kinsella@world.std.com) wrote:
: I am trying to find a thread from comp.lang.smalltalk that may be 8-9 
: months old.  If anyone may have archives going back that long they would 
: let me borrow, please let me know.  Thanks!
: 						Joe Kinsella

Below you'll find what is automatically output by listserv@vm.gmd.de
if somebody subscribes to the info-cls mailing list which is
bidirectionally gatewayed with c.l.s.  It contains instructions how to
retrieve the archives below (it should work for non-subscribed people
too).  Please use the internetstyle address, NOT
listserv@DEARN.BITNET.  The Database function as described below may
not work if too much data has to be searched (try to narrow down your
search regarding the time interval).

Drop me line if there are any problems.

-j|g (info-cls listowner) 
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  Joerg Rade   | How could I know what I say | jr@petz.han.de 
 Raabestr. 2   | before I hear what I think? | +49 511 698684 
30177 Hannover +-----------------------------+ S: Pelikanstr. 

Thu, 29 Dec 1994 21:43:01

Your  subscription  to  the   INFO-CLS  list  (SmallTalk  programming  language
discussion) has been accepted.

Please  save this  message  for future  reference, especially  if  you are  not
familiar with LISTSERV. This might look like  a waste of disk space now, but in
6 months you will be glad you  saved this information when you realize that you
cannot  remember what  are the  lists you  are subscribed  to, or  what is  the
command to  leave the list to  avoid filling up  your mailbox while you  are on
vacations.  In fact,  you  should create  a new  mail  folder for  subscription
confirmation messages  like this one, and  for the "welcome messages"  from the
list owners that you will occasionally receive after subscribing to a new list.

To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just send
mail to INFO-CLS@DEARN. This is called  "sending mail to the list", because you
send mail to a single address and  LISTSERV makes copies for all the people who
have  subscribed.  This  address  (INFO-CLS@DEARN) is  also  called  the  "list
address". You must never  try to send any command to that  address, as it would
be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. All commands must be sent
to the "LISTSERV address", LISTSERV@DEARN.BITNET (or LISTSERV@VM.GMD.DE). It is
very important to understand the difference between the two, but fortunately it
is not  complicated. The LISTSERV  address is like a  FAX number, and  the list
address  is like  a normal  phone line.  If you  make your  FAX call  someone's
regular phone  number by mistake, it  will be an unpleasant  experience for him
but  you will  probably be  excused the  first time.  If you  do it  regularly,
however, he will probably  get upset and send you a nasty  complaint. It is the
same with mailing  lists, with the difference that you  are calling hundreds or
thousands of people at  the same time, so a lot more people  get annoyed if you
use the wrong number.

You may leave the  list at any time by sending a  "SIGNOFF INFO-CLS" command to
LISTSERV@DEARN.BITNET (or  LISTSERV@VM.GMD.DE). You can also  tell LISTSERV how
you want it to confirm the receipt of  messages you send to the list. If you do
not trust  the system, send  a "SET INFO-CLS  REPRO" command and  LISTSERV will
send you a copy of your own messages,  so that you can see that the message was
distributed and did not get damaged on the way. After a while you may find that
this is  getting annoying, especially  if your mail  program does not  tell you
that the message is from you when it informs you that new mail has arrived from
INFO-CLS. If you send a "SET  INFO-CLS ACK NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will mail
you a short acknowledgement instead, which  will look different in your mailbox
directory. With  most mail programs you  will know immediately that  this is an
acknowledgement you can read later.  Finally, you can turn off acknowledgements
completely with "SET INFO-CLS NOACK NOREPRO".

Contributions sent to this list are  automatically archived. You can get a list
of  the available  archive  files by  sending an  "INDEX  INFO-CLS" command  to
LISTSERV@DEARN.BITNET (or  LISTSERV@VM.GMD.DE). You can then  order these files
with  a "GET  INFO-CLS LOGxxxx"  command, or  using LISTSERV's  database search
facilities. Send an "INFO DATABASE" command for more information on the latter.

Please note that it is presently possible for anybody to determine that you are
signed up to  the list through the  use of the "REVIEW"  command, which returns
the e-mail  address and name of  all the subscribers.  If you do not  want your
name to be visible, just issue a "SET INFO-CLS CONCEAL" command.

More information  on LISTSERV commands can  be found in the  LISTSERV reference
card,  which  you  can  retrieve  by  sending  an  "INFO  REFCARD"  command  to
LISTSERV@DEARN.BITNET (or LISTSERV@VM.GMD.DE).
-- 
  Joerg Rade   | How could I know what I say | jr@petz.han.de 
 Raabestr. 2   | before I hear what I think? | +49 511 698684 
30177 Hannover +-----------------------------+ S: Pelikanstr. 
