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From: eric@tleilax (Eric Goebelbecker)
Subject: Re: Letter From Ted Nelson
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Christopher C. Wood (christw@meaddata.com) wrote:
: In article <3rneds$6r5@crl11.crl.com>, dbennett@crl.com (Andrea Chen) writes:

: |> Perhaps the biggest mistake that early Mac designers made was that
: |> it was impossible to hook the Mac up to anything.  

: This isn't true. The very first Macintosh had two "high speed" serial
: ports built into every system.  The idea was that the serial ports
: were fast enough that you could hook anything into them.  233 KBPS
: _was_ high speed in 1984, when a "fast" serial device/network ran at
: 9600. 

: |> So lots of people settled for the PC platform because you could buy
: |> 3Com and get a decent server system.

: The Mac was networking to share laser printers in 1985, and
: file servers a year later.

: |> When in the late eighties 

: Appletalk was introduced in 1985.

: |> Apple announced it had invented "connectivity", the resulting
: |> system Apple talks was communicating at a couple hundred K bits per
: |> second or well under an order of magnitude less than standard DOS
: |> LANS.  

: In 1987, Apple supported AppleTalk protocols on Ethernet and Token
: Ring.  There were no "standard DOS LANs" that ran an order of
: magnitude faster.

: |> Failure to institute something so basic as letting computers talk
: |> to each other (evidently due to a dogmatic view of the "personal
: |> paradigm") cost Apple dearly.

: You again demonstrate a poor grasp of the facts.  Apple intoduced
: peer-to-peer file sharing a component of the standard operating system
: with System 7 in 1990 (or 1991; I'm fuzzy on the details.)  Standard
: peer-to-peer networking is _not_ a component of Windows 3.1 in 1995.

: On the Macintosh, networking was built-in in 1985, file-server client
: software in 1986, high-speed networks were supported by standard
: system software in 1987, and peer-to-peer file sharing was built into
: the operating system in 1990.

: Chris
: -- 
: Speaking only for myself, of course.
: Chris Wood    christw@lexis-nexis.com   ChrisCWood@aol.com

Actually the current version of Windows is 3.11, and it supports peer to
peer file sharing and printing.

(BTW, I hate Windows. I just know this because another part of group
has the misfortune of having to support it.)

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